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means in new orleans, it will catch the rainfall. they'll have to depend on the pumps which pump out about an inch in the first hour and then a half inch every hour after that. these areas could be overtopped much like they were on the the lower ninth ward and the st. bernard parish. this is something we're going to watch. we've never seen it before. >> all right. we'll be watching the news. i am handing it over to chris and prime time. welcome to prime time. a dozen main players in the president's orbit including son-in-law jared kushner. here's the question. who will show and who won't go? a leading conservative is here to fight the move. but as this potus likes to say, you've got nothing to hide. why don't you testify? and nancy pelosi has a fight on
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her hands to get the party on the same page. can they take on the president if they're taking on each other? plus, jeffrey epstein is trying to work another sweetheart deal for himself. we have the man who wrote the book on epstein. inside the mystery money and connections. what do you say? let's get after it. >> now, listen. mr. mueller may highlight the findings on obstruction. but this president is going to be put into the cross hairs by congress. and congress will have to get people to testify to those findings. so here come the subpoenas. 12 key players in the trump orbit. son-in-law jarrod. john kelly. former a.g. sessions and the man
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who stepped in to oversee the investigation when sessions recused himself, mr. rod rosenstein. the president says the mueller report was the end. that's not what mueller said in the report. what is the case to hide from the light of scrutiny? to make the case, the cheryl of the american conservative union. hello, brother. good to have you. >> so make the case. i use the president's rationale. he didn't follow it in his own case but you've got nothing to hide. and go speak. why not do that here? show of strength. won and done. >> it seemed at the time, what everybody wanted to have happen is to have an independent voice come in. reports to the doj on what exactly happened. >> the president allowed everybody to participate fully. what you see with democrats, i believe, they didn't like all the answers that came from bob mueller. they want a mulligan. they want to start the process all over again. they have the right to do it. the president also has prerogatives for those who work in the executive branch to say,
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look. i've said i didn't have to allow them to participate with mueller and i did, fully. what more can we learn? >> let's test the case. >> the biggest point is that this president never testified or submitted to real questioning. his lawyers, several times. the raskins, sekulow, giuliani, coaching to keep him out of the chair. he violated his own rule. if you've got nothing to hide, testify. so this isn't a second bite of the apple because they never got the first bite. in the mueller report he says, here are the findings. i can't do anything about them. that's congress' doing. so this isn't a do-over. it is an extension. >> he's wrong about saying that. bob mueller's job was to report back to the department of justice. his findings. it was not to have a call to action from congress. if that's exactly what he did in the report, and i think that's fair, i think for many
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americans, that's when he looks like he's getting political. i can't find anything. hey, fellas on the hill, why don't you find something. i watch a lot of media. i read a lot of media. we have covered this issue ad nauseam for two years and there's not a sint ilya of wrongdoing except some believe when trump fired jim comey, that equals obstruction. >> six or seven. >> i don't agree with that. that's a constitutional question about whether or not the president has the ability to fire people that serve at the pleasure of the president. people who don't like that decision making don't have to vote for him. that's what you do. to carry on a mulligan investigation and start all over again with these people who have spent hundreds of thousands on lawyers. >> the money can't be the issue. >> why destroy people to go through the meat grinder one more time? >> why is it destroying people?
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>> because you trusted bob mueller to find the answer. >> bob mueller is your boy. >> he's not my boy. >> he's a minted republican. >> let me speak for myself about that. i did the first political check on james comey. i'll start there. he was not a rock ribbed republican. >> i'm talking about mueller. >> bob mueller might be a registered republican but he was a trump hater. someone we call a never trumper. >> he interviewed to be head of the fbi right before he did this. >> yeah, why is there an obstruction of justice to get rid of james comey who he would have replaced? he never brought that up to the president. >> why would bob mueller ask the president the day before he's picked to be the special counsel for the job of fbi director -- >> he was asked to come in to interview. he didn't ask for the job. that's not my understanding.
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he was asked to come in by a mutual friend. >> you don't come in and talk to the president about being the fbi director unless you have an interest. >> i'm not saying he didn't have an interest. >> if he thought what he had just done to james comey was unconstitutional and obstruction of justice, i don't think he would have agreed to be interviewed. >> i don't think he knew. i think he was in the investigation with exactly what he put on page one of part two. i'm not allowed to indict a sitting president. >> he's given two different answers to that. i know the lawyer who wrote that opinion who is now a federal judge. a great democratic lawyer. the fact is bob mueller has given different answers as to yes couldn't go forward and indict the president. >> we'll get that next week. >> i don't think we will. i think he'll be asked. do you think bob mueller, the man you saw at that press conference, dottering through that statement, having trouble getting through that statement. do you think we'll really learn anything? >> i think people didn't read the book and they will watch the movie. and i think he will be
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impressive on reciting the findings. do i think he changed the calculus? not necessarily. i don't think it is replay. i think it is the ends of the play. the democrats have to make a choice. if they're going down this hedge road of oversight, this will never end. and there's political pain for them. if they really believe what mr. mueller put out, that there are at least six, seven grounds of potential obstruction of justice, i'm not saying they can impeach or saying they should. >> they can impeach. >> well, they maybe can. i don't know that they can for articles of impeachment. we would have to see it. >> it is a political question. >> of course. all of it trappings of being a judicial process. however, this is going to be instigated by what the president says. it is a show of weakness to not
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have your people comply. he doesn't have executive privilege. >> i disagree. i think there's a medium course here. there are times when presidents have allowed people who work for them currently in the executive branch to talk to congress. sometimes that is done without television cameras. sometimes that's done with immunity to make sure that the facts come out for the american people to see. there is a million different gradations. >> when this president -- >> if you would allow no finish this, they jumped right, as nadler wants to do. and as the new ralized majority wants to do. they want this confrontation. they don't want to find the facts. they want the political confrontation. it is my opinion. that is going to be tested politically. i'm saying what is the basis? >> here's the problem. >> we decided as a country, in most democrats thought this was
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the right move when rod rosenstein said, okay. we'll get special counsel. something everybody can respectful i've been on this network and a lot of others where people lauded bob mueller. and i will say this. they picked a person who has a high integrity and high respect. he took a very long time. he went through the mid-terms. >> can you imagine? >> he found no wrongdoing. >> not true. >> what are you talking about? >> name a specific thing in that report that was indictable. >> none of it is indictable because you can't indict a sitting president. >> that's not what he said. >> it is what em. >> he said i can't indict a sitting president. >> what did he tell in his press conference? >> what he said at his press conference is not what the attorney general says. what he said was, listen. we did this. we looked at it. if we could have said this, we would have. >> this goes full circle.
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why didn't donald trump sit down with bob mueller and answer all the questions? if bob mueller is an honest person who has nothing to hide, why cannot he give the same anxious over and over again? >> no way. >> let me go here. >> i'm giving you latitude but to put these two men in terms of veracity -- >> yeah. i think donald trump is much more solid. >> when it comes to telling the truth? >> yes. >> you believe this president is more of a truth teller than bob mueller? >> i know you think he doesn't tell the truth. >> and you trust him? >> do i trust the president. >> i didn't say you should never trust the president. i'm saying you don't think he lies? >> we can spend all day going through -- >> i want a yes/no. >> i think chris cuomo lies. >> you don't think this president lies to the american people more than we've seen in the past? >> absolutely not.
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as a matter of fact, on the things he said he would do as president, name one thing. >> you are narrowly defining it. >> the most important thing. i want to be your president. i will do these six things. he is doing those six things. >> that's not where his integrity ends. in the selling of those things he even lied. he called this tax cut a middle class tax cut. he said the wall would fix the problem. it is not a fix for the problem. >> i'm going back to the question of bob mueller. >> good switch. >> the reason why you should be careful in dealing with the special counsel who can indict you, if doj goes along with it. is that they can look at your words and say, wow, these words don't match up with these words. bob mueller's reasons for indicting or not indicting, he's given different answers. if i use that standard, i could indict bob mueller. >> he would have had nothing to worry about. >> not true. carter page had four fisa warrants on him. and they didn't indict him. he never did anything -- >> so what?
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>> you don't have to fight a crime -- >> why would you use the fisa court on someone who never did anything wrong? >> that's what it was. i can't wait until they release it so we can all see it. >> i can't believe it. i sound like the liberal in this conversation. i think prosecutors can go too far and i think american citizens are victimized by prosecutors who want to do nothing but find any way to indict somebody instead of finding the real criminal underlying issue. >> i have no problem getting to the truth. we'll see what happens. thank you very much. next, the best indicator of who is moving up the democratic polls. you have to look at who the president attacks. he went after elizabeth warren and he made the right choice. we'll show you why he has the best poll numbers. who is moving where and why? next.
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who is up and who is down and why? we have new numbers. and harry, the wizard of oz. great to have you here to talk about the state of play. you want to start with south carolina. why? why? >> first off, the hottest numbers. they came in, more than that, we saw them go after joe biden's record on busing. south carolina is a real shot to see who are not that had a true effect. >> it caused -- >> a majority. >> the fourth one in. those are two big indicators. >> i've broken it down overall. we see that joe biden has an overwhelming lead in the south carolina poll. leading the field at 35%. and harris is all the way back at 12%. take a look at african-americans. joe biden is doing better with them. and harris is running third. only 12%. she's actually running behind bernie sanders as well. >> what do you think about the switch of sanders and warren? the story of the day is warren but here she's way back.
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>> i think this column gives you a pretty good indication. she is still struggling with african-americans. this is one of the routes she hasn't made an inroads with yet. >> any insights? >> african-americans know bernie sanders. they trust joe biden. elizabeth warren comes from massachusetts. while she is making a play, let's keep in mind a lot of voters are still getting to know her. >> the second and third numbers. one of the interesting things to know is that women within the african-american vote is really the strong suit. it will be interesting to see how they are resonating. >> one other thing i'll point out. moderate to conservatives. african-americans. that's the biggest bloc. elizabeth warren is a very liberal candidate. >> now we go to the national numbers. what do we see? >> it was just a fresh day of polls. a beautiful day of polls for everybody. >> we have the "wall street
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journal" poll. what we see is joe biden is holding on to that number one position. he is a little weaker pre debate. basically we see in both the poll polls and the "wall street journal," a three-way tie. >> i wouldn't do it that way. i would do this. i want to do this and this. we have a big discrepancy. >> we do have a big discrepancy. i think it will be interesting to see. >> we're seeing that warren, the president went after elizabeth warren. why? we see a move. the wizard of oz said, i think not about the debate for her. this is a slow build. >> look at this. look at this. what do we see going up? six, ten, 12?
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this is a continuous climb for her. i think this is better than a post debate bump. it tells you it is not just about the debate. she's building the case and they seem to be latching on. >> not a splash. this is a tie. college. >> if you're looking at where elizabeth warren is, it is white college graduates. 22% post june debate. she didn't grow as much among whites without a college degree. white noncollege grads, moderate conservatives and african-americans is where she needs to improve. right now she is being powered by whites with a college degree. >> a very good look inside the numbers. it's interesting, the difference between harris and warren. warren is making a case with the i have a plan for everything. harris made a splash in that last debate. it is interesting to see if there was any back lash against her. wizard of oz. thank you very much. >> shalom, my friend. >> sounds like a tag line. another progressive moderate feud within the the democratic
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we've been watching racial animus play out. now it seems to be spilling into the house. now alexandria ocasio-cortez saying the speaker of the house is speaking out against speaking out against women of color.
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let's use that as a spring board for debate. why is it okay to use the race card against pelosi? >> i don't think that's the question. i think the question is why did nancy pelosi send a blank check. >> why does cortez play the race card against pelosi? >> because she's choosing to single out four women of color in congress who voted alongside 90 other democrats in the house. part of the congressional hispanic congress against this bill. why did we have to write a blank check to trump's deportation machine? the reality is that seven children have died at the border under the trump administration's watch. that's the real conversation. >> are you troubled about whether or not the kids died in
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part because the democrats delayed fugd so long? >> no. i think it is because we're not actually, we're taking mitch mcconnell at his word, asking with zero concessions and accountability for human rights abuses happening under our watch. this doesn't make any sense. why are we writing a blank checking without pushing? the reality is that four democrats didn't do this. 90 democrats in the congressional hispanic caucus also voted alongside four other women. and that apparently is why this is happening. let's so let's base this in reality that it was a handful of centrist democrats that forced nancy pelosi to sign a bill with mitch mcconnell that had zero concessions, zero oversight, accountability when there are seven children that have died under the president's watch. even beyond that, right? we have women -- >> hold on a second. >> we have women being forced to drink out of toilets. >> we don't know that.
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we know that alexandria ocasio-cortez said that. we need to see if there's proof of it. joe, let me get you in on this. this is no question that a lot of democrats were sideways on the nature of the if you saiding sent down. what do you make of the state of play in your own party? >> well, i think our party is used to vigorous debate. those who made the point that pelosi didn't get the best deal she could have a point. she's been doing it a long time. i believe she got the best deal she could but it goes beyond the pale when you start assigning motives to her. i think that alexandria ocasio-cortez has done a terrific job since she's been in congress. the freshmen, moderate freshmen or very progressive freshmen have been leaders. they performed well in hearings. they performed well in every
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part of the job. nancy knows what she's doing and she thought that was the best deal. to go like the aoc's chief of staff said to compare the caucus to segregationists, it is just wrong. you can criticize the deal. you can say she could have gotten more but you can't assign that kind of motive. >> the problem, here's the thing. they did. they've done it more than once and i would bet they've done it again. how can you take on this president? >> the way we take on this passion of the progressive winning of the party. but also the strength in the center and the moderates. the reason nancy pelosi is in a position to make these deals. a good deal or a bad deal was not because of a great progressive movement. it is because moderates in 40
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districts around the country turned republican seats into democrat seats. so both have to have a seat at the table. we won't beat trump if both are fighting each other and it is nancy pelosi's job to keep them together. >> i think that's the interesting thing. i hear you on your arguments. people call me up all the time and tell me. whether or not your party is a party or two or three different factions. there is a chance you won't come together behind a nominee. >> i think it is very clear we all want to defeat donald trump. let's not repeat what got him to this place. the focus has to be on the fact that we have people dying at our border. it doesn't have to be polite. >> i don't give you the high ground on that.
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because you guys knew, not you. you're not in congress. the democrats knew for six months that they could not meet the standard of care on the border. they came to you as acting dhs and said i need the money. you didn't give it. and there were conversations this phone, we need guarantees. we need guarantees. but not in a moment of crisis you don't. you need to get the money down there to stop the pain to prevent the injuries and the death and you waited six months. you don't think there's a price for that politically? >> i think there's a price politically to say you're going to hold donald trump accountable and not actually do it. if we're going to actually hold donald trump accountable, then do it. do it. save the children at the border. hold families together and hold the president accountable. by at least moving forward with articles of impeachment and
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inquiry on it. this is not rocket science. you can fight for the issues we gary and continue to question the fact that we have seven children that have died at the border. >> 12 people. >> okay. 12. even worse. and we're debating whether or not if it is polite to talk about that. >> i'm not talking about whether or not it is polite. >> i think playing the race card against nancy pelosi was not a smart move. both for their careers and for consolidation within your party. but joe, alexandra makes a good point. >> i guess the point is why single these four people out? >> because they are group that played that card. >> 93 other democrats -- 95 other democrats also vote for this bill. >> she didn't call them out by name. i get you. i think a little of that is media baiting, to be honest with you. she didn't call them out by name. i appreciate your point. what do you do going forward?
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she has a point. there was a mandate in 2018. it was check this president's ass. come strong. and you heard the words. they were all talking that talk. are you walking that walk right now? >> you have to go back to 2018. the checks were on things like health care and protecting pre-existing conditions. there was not a ground swell in these 40 districts that swung in the house for removing the president or for bob mueller's report. these candidates didn't run ads on russia. they ran on protecting pre-existing conditions on health care. i understand. there is a legitimate debate going on in the democratic party over how to take on trump. i think the subpoenas, if
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they're defied, we'll see whether the democrats move forward or not. to go back to the original point, i don't think the speaker singled out any particular members. there are some members who are using social media very effectively to get out to new voters. they are calling attention to themselves on the issues. to take next step and say that she's playing, she's a racist of some kind. it is just not true. and whether it is helpful or not or hurts the party or not. it is the most important thing. it is not true. >> well, i hear you on that. do you know what i see? i see it reflected with what's going on in the party. there's pragmatism. you have the passion. and that's at play in this debate as well. it is good that you bring it on the show. >> and we need both. >> you've got both.
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james patterson created some pretty wild fictional crime stories. then he wrote a true one that might have been the most wild. jeffrey epstein's story. the best selling author is here. keen insight. new twists in the case. next.
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lawyers for jeffrey epstein are pushing for him to get out on bond and live in his $77 million abode pending trial. but more accusers are still coming forward with claims against the sex offender. he is a top tier sex offender. and he is certainly got an easy deal the last time by u.s. attorney alex acosta. will it happen again? there is so much intrigue. let's bring in the legendary author, james patterson. he wrote about the epstein scandal 2016. filthy rich. important to know what we were talking about before we came on. >> the thing about his abode is the door is broken. >> 2016, you come out with a
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book. filthy rich. not a lot of interest in it. even though so much that existed, in terms of being here on the shows, the outrage. only now we're starting to hear it. why the delay? >> i think a piece of it was the political side. i think what got a lot of interest was the involvement of acosta. he's in the book as well. but all of a sudden, when we put the book out, he was not secretary of labor. now okay, we'll talk about trump and the secretary of labor. >> there was a secrecy here intended or implicit. he got the job being dean of the law school there. he got a lot of people saying he would be great as secretary of labor. did they not know about this? or was it a misunderstanding? >> i think probably a misunderstanding. i've heard people go over it a lot in terms of the sweetheart deal. i think what happened, i've talked to a lot of people about it.
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it wasn't that they were afraid of dershwitz and stone and everybody. it was that these people had convinced them, one, we won't let all these girls testify because they can't prove they were there. and secondly, that we're going to destroy them. if you can get epstein for prosecution, you're going to get him. but if you do this, you'll destroy girls. >> not the kind of things that usually works with a prosecutor. i'm going to destroy your witnesses. >> except if you listen to these girls, especially back then. you know what? it's tricky. it's going to be tricky with them. >> do you think there's more cultural currency now? >> yeah, yeah. this is an interesting thing.
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in terms of the whole me too movement. nobody seems to be rising up that much in terms of the girls. obviously they did in the cosby case. >> women are coming out though. >> obviously they had to have new evidence to get the warrants. two things for you. when you were researching the book, this intrigue around his money. these dark notions that not only does he not have the money that he was purporting to have, but that there was no real hedge fund, no investment. it was about money he was getting from people because they were tangled with him in what they knew about him. >> i think he made money for people. i think he was advising them on how to get out of tax issues. as we were saying, man, get wesley wexner on here. he knows stuff. they were pretty tight. >> why do you think he's been so tough to come forward? >> i don't think he wants to come forward.
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he may be ashamed of it. or maybe -- >> he doesn't have any exposure as far as we know. >> who knows? >> it is the public corruption unit looking at this. >> it could be a move, maybe they had a tough time doing it before. but it is unusual to have this kid abuse case being handled by public corruption. >> i have to believe they have some new stuff. >> the thing once they broke down the pornography in his apartment, the worst case, they have that. >> but in order to get warrants, they need something else. otherwise it would be fruit from the poisonous tree and they wouldn't be able to use it. and it is a human trafficking story. it is abusive of minors and sex abuse story. not just underage girls. >> it is about trafficking. we need to pay so much more attention. it is about the girls, we need
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to pay attention to that. it's not that we're going to stop this. but these sweetheart deals is, we have to at least limit them and cut them down. if this does that, then that's a good thing. >> mr. patterson, as we learn more, i would love to have your insight on understanding and context. what we learn and what we understand. >> we did. we put up three private investigators in terms of digging up as much as we dug up. >> a lot more people on it now. >> james patterson. what a pleasure. the biggest inauguration crowd size ever. the most transparent president in history. a stable genius. and now this. wait for it. next. ♪ ♪ award winning interface. award winning design.
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first you had the classic. that stands alone. then smoking gun. typo. he did it twice. strong point. he can't spell counsel. he repeatedly uses the word the wrong way. he misspelled joe biden in the same tweet. calling the former vp a low i.q. individual. he got that part right. and behold, the take on unprecedented. see it there? unpresidented. we could however possibly forgive tap and scott with two ts. a lot of people made that mistake. let's bring in d lemon. a great speller? i don't think i can give it to him. >> i'm being honest. don't make fun of me. i used to win spelling bees. my family used to think that i was some really smart, you know, person.
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prodigy. >> were these open competitions? was this everyone in the house? where did you win? >> stop it. i would remember everybody's phone number and everybody's name in the room. now i cannot spell for you know what. i can't remember any phone number. don't ask me even my own phone number. i'm going to cut him some slack. >> i'm always interested to hear your thoughts on yourself. >> i'm going to cut him some slack. but here's the point. i am not the president of the united states. if you are the president of the united states, and people hang on your every word -- at least they used to, right? everyone thought whenever the president says something, it's serious. then you should check and recheck and double-check and triple check and make sure that your spelling is correct. not only is he inconsistent on spelling. he's inconsistent on capitalization.
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if i were president of the united states, i would have someone around me to make sure that i spell things correctly. it's not an excuse. he says that. he's the president of the united states. get it right. >> also it is another clever it is another clever application of his victim complex. he is very good for blaming others that he does. this spelling thing, it's not to be on him. there's no way it's on us. >> there's a spellcheck on the iphone or on your phone. it spells things for you. it will autocorrect. you look and go whoops. that's probably why i can't spell. >> there is no excuse. he should look the a lot of these tweets, what did i write? what the covfefe did i write? >> let's talk about the covfefe on the show. it's some interesting stuff. you know the i.c.e. raids? >> yes. >> two cities affected by the
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i.c.e. raids, houston and los angeles. we've got the police chief of one city and we've got the mayor of another city, okay? also i've assembled a group to talk about the squad, the tension between the squad and the speaker, and is there anything that will bring them together? should they be fighting in public? what in the world is going on? you don't want to miss it. >> we had a hot debate on it tonight. it's a great topic. d. lemon, check with you in a second. >> see you, my brother. >> all right. paul ryan, he retired. haven't heard from him in awhile, but the former speaker has thrown some shade at the president. why is he throwing shade now after carrying so much water and basking in the trump sun? that is the subject of our closing argument next. can my side be firm? and my side super soft? with the sleep number 360 smart bed you can both adjust your comfort with your sleep number setting. so, can it help us fall asleep faster? yes, by gently warming your feet. but can it help keep me asleep? absolutely, it intelligently senses your movements and automatically adjusts to keep you both effortlessly comfortable.
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principle is somewhat of a practical opposite. meaning, it is what you stick to when everyone is looking. and in this new book, "american carnage," by tim alberta, we are reminding about how so many who stake their reputation on principle caved to political convenience in this administration. exhibit "a" has to be paul ryan. because moments like this became a staple of my coverage of this administration. >> do you hear that? that's the silence from mitch mcconnell and paul ryan. >> time and time again this president would say provocative things and they would say nothing. ryan would never take an invitation to defend any of his standing by, despite always casting himself as different, as putting principle before party, but when he took the speakership, insisting he would do it his way, his spine softened. now that he's retired, he seems
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to be trying to recast his reticence to speak truth to power with this. we've gotten so numbed by it all, not in government, but where we live our lives, we have a responsibility to try and rebuild. don't call a woman a horse face. don't cheat on your wife. don't cheat on anything. be a good person. set a good example. he never said anything like that about this president when he had the power to make a stand. despite him saying he would never defend this personal perfidy of this president, and i say forget about his remounting the moral high horse about this president's personal life. i don't care about his personal life. let's stick to serious politics and policy and remember where ryan stood while in office. here he is on trump's arguably inappropriate interactions with jim comey. >> he's new at government, and so therefore i think that he -- he's learning as he goes. >> on trump's charlottesville both sides comment.
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>> he's learning. i know his heart's in the right place. >> and on the executive order banning muslims. >> the president has a responsibility to the security of this country. we need to pause and we need to make sure that the vetting standards are up to snuff so we can guarantee the safety and security of our country. that is what this does. >> did we? because just 14 months before that, he was infuriated by the suggestion of the same type of ban. proof. >> what was proposed yesterday is not what this party stands for, and more importantly, it's not what this country stands for. >> so what happened? i'll tell you what happens. with every collapse of character the offender in politics often rationalizes the fall. "i told myself i got to have a relationship with this guy to help him get his mind right. because i'm telling you, he didn't know anything about government. i wanted to scold him all the time." yeah, but you didn't.
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you said nothing too often. >> i've decided i'm not going to comment on the tweets of the day or the hour. i haven't seen them all, to be candid with you. >> and when he did speak, he was meek, and when he acted, he was in this president's shadow. a 538 analysis shows ryan voted in line with trump's position 95.5% of the time. from the border wall to the fugazi middle class tax cuts that ballooned the deficit. so much for being a budget hawk, right? ryan's signature issue. there are other examples in here of how those once around this potus were once opposed and became patsies. mr. spicer, mr. priebus, mr. mulvaney. can you believe the man who now says you got to let trump be trump is code for i'm scared, right? mulvaney once said we're not going to let donald trump dismantle the bill of rights. but i focus on paul ryan, why? because he could well have a second act in politics and he could look good to the reasonable right and even some in the center, but he's going to have to own that he was just like the rest of them, not the
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best of them. he was given a chance to do what he said he would do, all the things that made so many smile when he spoke, seeing in him a hope for a better politics, principle before party, progress before patronage, but when he had the power to be different as speaker he was painfully the same. alberta writes that ryan saw retirement as an escape hatch. maybe an escape from trump or politics but not from reality. this period that we're all living together right now is going to be remembered for a long time and people will be counted, what they stood for, what they good against, and absolutely those who stood still. thank you for watching. "cnn tonight" with the one and only d. lemon starts right now. >> one observation, when you were playing the sound byte -- wasn't the same paul ryan. one had a beard. the other one didn't. >> it's the same person. >> oh, okay. >> good thing you won those

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